Hi all,
I'd like to have a clarification about what it's indicated in your AIO Datasheet, more precisely under Technical Data for the "Input Resolution in process Image" field you show the following:
Voltage: 1mV (16bit)
Current: 1microA (16bit)
Temperature: 0.1K (16bit)
What do you exactly mean with "K"?
Can I consider as valid what you say in the RTD Tutorial: "Basic Knowledge RTD Measurement (Con)", at the beginning of the page: "....The process image (PA) then contains the temperature values of the two measuring inputs in the unit 1/10 °C" ?
So can I use RTD channel for measuring a temperature with PT100 sensor with a 0.1 °C precision?
Many thanks in advance!
Kind Regards
AIO module RTD precision for temperature
Re: AIO module RTD precision for temperature
Hi Xipherx,
"K" is the symbol for the temperature unit "Kelvin".
Regarding your second question: Yes, 0,1 °C is equal to 0,1 K and yes, you can measure/display the temperature in 0,1 °C steps.
If you want to know more about Kelvin and the conjunction between Celcius and Kelvin, you might wanna take a look at the Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
"K" is the symbol for the temperature unit "Kelvin".
Regarding your second question: Yes, 0,1 °C is equal to 0,1 K and yes, you can measure/display the temperature in 0,1 °C steps.
If you want to know more about Kelvin and the conjunction between Celcius and Kelvin, you might wanna take a look at the Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
Re: AIO module RTD precision for temperature
Many thanks,
I'm trying to use your AIO module in an industrial automation and monitoring project proposal with a client of mine.
My previous question was because I'd like to offer to my client a different technology from Siemens S7.
More precisely I'm trying to understand if your AIO module is comparable to the 6ES7531-7KF00-0AB for temperature measurement characteristics : https://support.industry.siemens.com/te ... aller=SIOS
For example:
For the Siemens AIO module we have:
Linearity error (relative to input range), (+/-): 0.02%
Temperature error (relative to input range), (+/-): 0.005 %/K; With TC type T 0.02 ± % / K
Repeat accuracy in steady state at 25 °C (relative to input range), (+/-): +-6°C
Operational error limit in overall temperature range
Voltage, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Current, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Resistance, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Resistance thermometer, relative to input range, (+/-): Ptxxx standard: ±1.5 K, Ptxxx climate: ±0.5 K, Nixxx standard: ±0.5 K, Nixxx climate: ±0.3 K Thermocouple, relative to input range, (+/-) Type B: > 600 °C ±4.6 K, type E: > -200 °C ±1.5 K, type J: > -210°C ±1.9 K, type K: > -200 °C ±2.4 K, type N: > -200 °C ±2.9 K,type R: > 0 °C ±4.7 K, type S: > 0 °C ±4.6 K, type T: > -200 °C ±2.4 K
Basic error limit (operational limit at 25°C)
Voltage, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Current, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Resistance, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Resistance thermometer, relative to input range, (+/-): Ptxxx standard: ±0.7 K, Ptxxx climate: ±0.2 K, Nixxx standard: ±0.3 K, Nixxx climate: ±0.15 KThermocouple, relative to input range, (+/-) Type B: > 600 °C ±1.7 K, type E: > -200 °C ±0.7 K, type J: > -210 °C ±0.8 K, type K: > -200 °C ±1.2 K, type N: > -200 °C ±1.2 K, type R: > 0 °C ±1.9 K, type S: > 0 °C ±1.9 K, type T: > -200 °C ±0.8 K
Can you tell me if your AIO module is in the same order of magnitude of the Siemens?
Many thanks in advance.
Best Regards
I'm trying to use your AIO module in an industrial automation and monitoring project proposal with a client of mine.
My previous question was because I'd like to offer to my client a different technology from Siemens S7.
More precisely I'm trying to understand if your AIO module is comparable to the 6ES7531-7KF00-0AB for temperature measurement characteristics : https://support.industry.siemens.com/te ... aller=SIOS
For example:
For the Siemens AIO module we have:
Linearity error (relative to input range), (+/-): 0.02%
Temperature error (relative to input range), (+/-): 0.005 %/K; With TC type T 0.02 ± % / K
Repeat accuracy in steady state at 25 °C (relative to input range), (+/-): +-6°C
Operational error limit in overall temperature range
Voltage, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Current, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Resistance, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.3%
Resistance thermometer, relative to input range, (+/-): Ptxxx standard: ±1.5 K, Ptxxx climate: ±0.5 K, Nixxx standard: ±0.5 K, Nixxx climate: ±0.3 K Thermocouple, relative to input range, (+/-) Type B: > 600 °C ±4.6 K, type E: > -200 °C ±1.5 K, type J: > -210°C ±1.9 K, type K: > -200 °C ±2.4 K, type N: > -200 °C ±2.9 K,type R: > 0 °C ±4.7 K, type S: > 0 °C ±4.6 K, type T: > -200 °C ±2.4 K
Basic error limit (operational limit at 25°C)
Voltage, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Current, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Resistance, relative to input range, (+/-): 0.1 %
Resistance thermometer, relative to input range, (+/-): Ptxxx standard: ±0.7 K, Ptxxx climate: ±0.2 K, Nixxx standard: ±0.3 K, Nixxx climate: ±0.15 KThermocouple, relative to input range, (+/-) Type B: > 600 °C ±1.7 K, type E: > -200 °C ±0.7 K, type J: > -210 °C ±0.8 K, type K: > -200 °C ±1.2 K, type N: > -200 °C ±1.2 K, type R: > 0 °C ±1.9 K, type S: > 0 °C ±1.9 K, type T: > -200 °C ±0.8 K
Can you tell me if your AIO module is in the same order of magnitude of the Siemens?
Many thanks in advance.
Best Regards
Re: AIO module RTD precision for temperature
Hi Xipherx, please have a look at the datasheet of the AIO Module. If you still have questions please do not wait to ask them.
Re: AIO module RTD precision for temperature
I'm having the same question/concern, prior buy.
I guess and hope there is a bit of confusion between resolution and accuracy.
I need to setup a project with 16 RTD, and I have to control some temperatures with set points at 0.01°C cerca. For me, even if the accuracy is around 0.5°C, it does not matter as my process will auto-adjust the temperature set points based on other measures, but it is still important that I can read and process temperatures with a precision of 0.01°C.
So my question remains, because on the RevPi 'store' it is mentioned "The 2 RTD inputs enable temperatures to be measured with high precision from -165°C to +600°C in steps of 0.5°C".
If so, these RevPi AIO won't be suitable to my application.
Any thoughts from KUNBUS engineers ?
I guess and hope there is a bit of confusion between resolution and accuracy.
I need to setup a project with 16 RTD, and I have to control some temperatures with set points at 0.01°C cerca. For me, even if the accuracy is around 0.5°C, it does not matter as my process will auto-adjust the temperature set points based on other measures, but it is still important that I can read and process temperatures with a precision of 0.01°C.
So my question remains, because on the RevPi 'store' it is mentioned "The 2 RTD inputs enable temperatures to be measured with high precision from -165°C to +600°C in steps of 0.5°C".
If so, these RevPi AIO won't be suitable to my application.
Any thoughts from KUNBUS engineers ?
Re: AIO module RTD precision for temperature
Hi FMW, I have successfully measured with a RevPi AIO Module and a 4-wire PT1000 temperature in steps of 0.1°C.
Take a look at this documentation:
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pi@RevPi99988:~ $ piTest -r RTDValue_1
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 222 dez (=00de hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 224 dez (=00e0 hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 227 dez (=00e3 hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 231 dez (=00e7 hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 233 dez (=00e9 hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 235 dez (=00eb hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 235 dez (=00eb hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 236 dez (=00ec hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 236 dez (=00ec hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)
2 Byte-Value of RTDValue_1: 237 dez (=00ed hex)